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Ezekiel 13 - 2 - Proof Pre Tribulation RAPTURE
Teachings are FALSE - Pastor Arnold Murray
11:12 Added: 1 year ag
o From: OMEGACUBE
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He's full of it... i listened to him 4 years and he's one of those 1/2 correct pastors.....he also taught the word Saxon means Isaacs sons..... without any proof..he makes and twists scripture to suit his theology....
shovelniron 13 hours ago 2
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:Then we which are alive and remain shall be "caught up" together with them in the "clouds" Revelation 7:14 These are they which came out of great tribulation, The White-robed Multitude. some go thur and some dont.
This Murray guy is a deceiver! he is very proud of his serpent seed teachings! dont he also teach everybody goes to heaven?
tank924 1 day ago
No one will see YSHUA until the Son of Perdition is Revealed. So, if you have someone or something come and say he is THE CHRIST before the Anti Christ is revealed you know he is not JESUS
OMEGACUBE in reply to tank924 (Show the comment) 1 day ago
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"caught up" happens before the Son of Perdition makes his debut. his bride wont be here. For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.. so you say if we believe we are still going to get slaughtered in the tribulation? WOW what a way to do ur bride. sure sounds like WRATH to me..
tank924 in reply to OMEGACUBE (Show the comment) 13 hours ago
Why don't you start with READING what you post....
I Thess. 4;16-17 "The Lord...shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT...with the VOICE of the archangel, AND with the TRUMP of God...'
Does this SOUND like a "secret rapture"...or just as described where ALL the WORLD shall KNOW of His Return????
Now READ Matt 24:27...does that sound like a "secret rapture"??
Next READ I Cor 15:52 -54 Instantly, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP, for the trumpet shall sound...and we shall be changed.
ILuvdJesusB4 in reply to tank924 (Show the comment) 1 day ago
i do read.. "descend" to go or pass from a higher to a lower place; move or come down: to descend from....."caught up" together with them in the "clouds" so how are we going to meet in the clouds if its only his VOICE that desends.
sorry i threw away my serpent seed type glasses when i stopped listening to murrays teachings.. some of his stuff is just OUT there!
tank924 in reply to ILuvdJesusB4 (Show the comment) 15 hours ago
the Lord "HIMSELF" shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT.. the shout is with him not just a shout from above! because he is meeting with his church in the clouds. its simple take off those serpent type goggles you got on.
tank924 in reply to ILuvdJesusB4 (Show the comment) 15 hours ago
When the written Word tells us, the whole world will witness the Brightness of HIS coming from east to west and hear the sound of the Last trumpet...I would not say that HIS COMING is gonna be a "secret flight".
ILuvdJesusB4 in reply to tank924 (Show the comment) 14 hours ago
The difference between caught up and second coming. we meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall "ALWAYS BE WITH THE LORD". Mystery and Victory. The armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. We are still with him following on white horses . why does murray remove so much truth. he almost sounds like an NIV.
tank924 in reply to ILuvdJesusB4 (Show the comment) 13 hours ago
No... When Jesus said the tares are planted by the Devil, who was he talking about? Did Jesus make it up? Was it planted in the bible? There are sons of light and sons of dark. The serpent seed teaching is the most dangerous teaching of all. Jesus just wanted us to know there are sons planted by the devil who will be reaped by the angels. Two die, 3 1/2 days - 7th Trumps. This is earth age two. If you pass you get into the wedding. If not its outer darkness. One more chance to pass. YHVH
OMEGACUBE in reply to tank924 (Show the comment) 1 day ago
Jesus Christ will one day establish true righteousness. After He raptures the true church out of this world, God will pour out His righteous wrath on the world. During that tribulation, He will draw others to saving faith in Jesus Christ. At the end of the tribulation, all unbelievers will be judged for their sin and unbelief; then, they will be removed from God’s presence. True followers of Christ will reign with Him. What a glorious hope for the “wheat”!
tank924 in reply to OMEGACUBE (Show the comment) 12 hours ago
I hate serpent seed teaching. But to be wiser than the serpent you have to look at the whole truth. Not how the KKK or Nazi's or Golden Dawn from Greece use it. This truth can reveal the deceiver and his plan to all which could unite all or divide all. Until the elect are delivered up and the holy spirit speaks thru them, none of us will have the whole story. All has been foretold, but how much can we handle? I am working on the whole truth day by day. 5 month Season of Locust Tribulation.
OMEGACUBE in reply to tank924 (Show the comment) 1 day ago
This Murray guy is a deceiver.
Get the facts!!
watch?v=5K3cHqehVTo
BYBB123 2 weeks ago
I am a minister. Until 2 weeks ago, I believed in the pre-tribulation rapture.
But after CLOSE examination of the book of revelation, matthew, and 1st thessalonnians,
I have come to the conclusion that the rapture will occur at the end of the tribulation, at the beginning of the 1000 year reign.
alielbaryeshua 1 month ago 2
I feel terribly sorry for those who learn the "Word" from the NIV.
TheLastAaron 4 months ago 3
Yes,l've been trying to explain this,there would be no nead for half the thngs in Revelation otherwise,like their loyalty won't be tested,Jesus said that he suffered,so will we,l have said to them"don't be shaking your fists at God when you find yourselves in the tribulation time period"
creations78 5 months ago
@scottbob 103. he is teaching from the manuscripts before they were translated. a lot of mistranslations in the KJV but fewer than other Bibles. with each newer edition the Word is changed more and more, the newest edition removes "Father" and replace with "parent"........
jrmiles20 5 months ago
Rapture is BULLSHIT!!! ... you people believe some Stupid SHIT!!!!
DjBoogie11 6 months ago
- Evidence?
freecounselingonline in reply to DjBoogie11 (Show the comment) 1 month ago
2 Thess 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (the Rapture)
2 Thess 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (Day of the Lord/Tribulation) is at hand.
scottbob103 6 months ago
scottbob103 6 months ago
1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
scottbob103 6 months ago
I've always had a bad feeling about this guy. I don't know what Bible he has been reading but a lot of what he preaches is SO wrong. I don't know rather he's ignorant or leading people astray on purpose...
scottbob103 7 months ago
- King James 1611 and Strongs Concordance and Companion Bible - Full text of "Massorah Massoreth Massoretic Rabbinic Hebrew Bible - If you look up the words as they were and see what they meant vs what we are all taught you will see that he is the one that has done his homework...
I have yet to catch him in an error... Its shocking and hurts to know the pastors and churches we all love are being mislead or have missed the mark on the upcoming end times events.
Good luck to you !
OMEGACUBE in reply to scottbob103 (Show the comment) 7 months ago 3
you mean the Hebrew translation of the New Testament that was originally written in Greek...this Pastor is a goofball...He also thinks white Americans and English people are the real Jews
shovelniron in reply to OMEGACUBE (Show the comment) 13 hours ago 2
I hate to be the one to remind you but the Kabbal Jews who translated that NT..don't exactly follow nor believe in Jesus...kinda like the gays who did the niv..
shovelniron in reply to OMEGACUBE (Show the comment) 13 hours ago 2
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stealthblack6 1 year ago
Arnold Murray is lying. There are 4 rapture views and only 1 of them teaches that Christ comes before the Antichrist. On top of that Ezekiel 13 has nothing to do with the rapture at all. Its about an ancient pagan Babylonian practice of soul catching. He needs to learn some history.
ministerfortson 1 year ago
no rapture get over it
tribulation138 in reply to ministerfortson (Show the comment) 11 months ago
This man = 1 of IF not THE baddest-axe, FATHER/SON-anointed, Black-Belt Bible teachers EVAR, BAR NONE. He puts to SHAME 97% of ALL the PHONY WOULD-BE SO-CALLED SELF-APPOINTED FALSE "PREACHERS" (wolves in sheeps-)! U haven't READ nor BEEN TAUGHT FATHER'S WORD if u haven't heard this Pastor & Black Belt Man of God teach the Word fr the KJV (NOT all those other phony translations)
ballistix01 1 year ago 2
bro I sort of agree with you but why so hostile? I know the times are urgent but ppl will hear you better if you talk more polite. either way I agree with you on the rapture for the most part. God Bless brother
NJHoopz21 in reply to ballistix01 (Show the comment) 8 months ago
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